Yes, how sad. Except that the vast majority of scientists with any credibility have in fact come to the conclusion that global warming is real, and that it has a likely anthropogenic origin. But here is where Noonan thinks the problem lies:...how sad and frustrating it is that the world's greatest scientists cannot gather, discuss the question of global warming, pore over all the data from every angle, study meteorological patterns and temperature histories, and come to a believable conclusion on these questions: Is global warming real or not?
The science of global warming has been politicized, of course. And there is confusion in the public mind. But, as with evolutionary biology in public schools, there is a reason for this: doubt and confusion serve a particular group's political interests. Noonan is saying that, despite the fact that the scientific community has come to a resaonable consensus that global warming is a real phenomenon, the existence of manufactured political controversy and doubt is actually the scientists' fault. She concludes:You would think the world's greatest scientists could do this, in good faith and with complete honesty and a rigorous desire to discover the truth. And yet they can't. Because science too, like other great institutions, is poisoned by politics. Scientists have ideologies. They are politicized. All too many of them could be expected to enter this work not as seekers for truth but agents for a point of view who are eager to use whatever data can be agreed upon to buttress their point of view. And so, in the end, every report from every group of scientists is treated as a political document. And no one knows what to believe. So no consensus on what to do can emerge.
That is, for saying things that "The People" don't particulaly want to hear. In other news, the Union of Concerned Scientists has documented the entry of politics into the decisions made by US FDA scientists.If global warming is real, and if it is new, and if it is caused not by nature and her cycles but man and his rapacity, and if it in fact endangers mankind, scientists will probably one day blame The People for doing nothing. But I think The People will have a greater claim to blame the scientists, for refusing to be honest, for operating in cliques and holding to ideologies. For failing to be trustworthy.
The survey also found that "forty percent of respondents fear retaliation for voicing safety concerns in public...[and] more than a third of the respondents did not feel they could express safety concerns even inside the agency." When political appointees overrule or suppress scientific decisions, that's not "science being untrustworthy". It's a corruption of the scientific process by politicians. It's bad for science, it's bad for politics, and it's bad for the country. The UCS has taken on the goal of defending scientific integrity against this kind of meddling. You can help them set Peggy Noonan straight via their Scientific Integrity program.Of the 997 FDA scientists who responded to the survey, nearly one-fifth (18.4 percent) said that they "have been asked, for non-scientific reasons, to inappropriately exclude or alter technical information or their conclusions in a FDA scientific document." This is the third survey UCS has conducted to examine inappropriate interference with science at federal agencies.
36 Comments
matthew · 20 July 2006
This article is disturbing to me on many levels. It's also very disturbing to see what responses she/they have posted to article. I don't know how many responses have been sent in, but so far there only two that have "made the cut": http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/responses.html?article_id=110008676. I sent in my 2 cents -as a scientist- but I'm pretty sure how well that will go over, I'm not holding my breath.
Keanus · 20 July 2006
Noonan has spent too much time cocooned in her air-conditioned New York apartment reading only what her ideology will permit her to read. She's completely out of touch with science, the public sphere, and reality. Sounds a little like Dubya in his cocoon in the White House.
David B. Benson · 20 July 2006
Another sad example of the anti-enlightenment thought so prevalent these days...
Thanks for the update.
Laser · 20 July 2006
Noonan has adopted the post-modernist stance on science. Oh, the irony.
Alann · 20 July 2006
Unfortunately I think it goes something like this:
Man: Is it getting warmer, or it it just me?
Science: Its definitely warmer.
Man: Am I part of the problem?
Science: Yes.
Man: Can I do anything about it?
Science: Yes, but you're not going to like it.
Man: Oh, well just how bad will it get?
Science: Ocean levels rise, stronger storms, changing weather patterns.
Man: Sound bad, but what does that really mean?
Science: Allot of damaged property and displaced people, suffering for hundreds of millions, and potentially famines (from damaged crops), plagues (from overcrowding and poor conditions), wars (from overcrowding, food shortages and general poverty) and deaths (see the first three).
Man: Am I going to be one of them?
Science: Not sure.
Man: Oh in that case get back to me when you reach a consensus.
DrJohn · 20 July 2006
Well, here is mine. No, it is not up yet. I expect editing, or failure to post.
Comment:
The scientists have met. They have discussed. They have a consensus. Peggy
Noonan, though, seems to have missed it or failed to do any homework such that
she would find it. Here, in a nice little essay, is the summary with
references (gee, none of those in the Noonan article!) to the reports.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/306/5702/1686.pdf
I suggest that every one read that little free piece from the AAAS. Then, look
over the book The Republican War on Science to see why there is a
noncontroversy. In the empirical world of science, there is a wrong answer.
Just because someone "believes" the wrong answer does not mean that there are
two equally valid answers.
The Ghost of Paley · 20 July 2006
As much as it shames me, I must admit that global-warming denial is a pathology found almost exclusively in conservative circles. We cannot continue on our current course; the planet's ill and the condition's becoming terminal. I can only hope that my ideological allies will come to their senses before it's too late (yeah, I know).
Bruce Thompson GQ · 20 July 2006
Invite Peggy over for a beer and some conversation.
Delta Pi Gamma (Scientia et Fermentum)
Matt · 20 July 2006
Dr. John: thanks for the pointer to the AAAS piece.
GoP: I think you're right, and I wonder why it is that the global warming denial is so dominated by conservatives. Is it the dominionist christian influence, do you think? Or maybe a random reaction against the "liberal" environmental movement?
And conservatives as a group are not particularly stupid: presumably they can see that glaciers and ice caps really are melting. Is it just the case that they don't think they can gain anything politically conceding the existence of the phenomenon?
In any case, I have the suspicion that Noonan's piece is a prelude to a public acceptance that global warming is true. I think she's preparing a way to deflect the blame away from "The People" (i.e., global warming denialists such as she has been) and onto scientists, once the consequences of global warming become clear to the average person.
mplavcan · 20 July 2006
As a scientist, this stuff really pisses me off. These people are positively Orwellian, and I can only conclude that they are either intensely ignorant, arrogant, Machiavellian, or some combination of the above. The claim is as transparent as glass: scientists must be political if their conclusions might result in government regulation (impinge on profits), place responsibility on individuals or corporations for damages knowingly incurred (impinge on profits), limit ones ability to use property without regard to consequences to others (basic selfishness and impinge on profits), challenge specific religious doctrines (insecurity), or, as a corollary to the last, undermine attempts to proselytize sectarian religious doctrine in a public forum (insecurity). Apparently they are so deeply ingrained into a world where political ideology dictates fact that they are incapable of allowing others the dignity of professional judgment that transcends political preferences.
They wonder why more and more scientists are "against" them? Jesus, how stupid can they be? On the basis of NOTHING but IDEOLOGY they trash science, smear scientists' credibility and integrity, and then wonder why we don't just sit up and go "gee, how could I NOT have realized that selling more Hummers is so important that my data must be wrong!"
I am normally quite moderate politically, but lately I've had to stop myself from automatically rejecting positions simply because these cretins are so intellectually poisonous that I can't trust anything that they say.
The Ghost of Paley · 20 July 2006
Steviepinhead · 20 July 2006
Paley actually making sense on something of importance.
[Slaps self. Carefully reviews thread. Egad--he still seems to be speaking sensibly!]
Brrr. Spooky.
Flint · 20 July 2006
One gets the impression that the consensus that includes every scientist without a strong vested interest in denial, isn't one Noonan herself agrees with. And since all scientists will never be unanimous about anything, it's always possible to find a dissenter to ANY consensus, as 'proof' that no consensus has emerged. I would expect that if Noonan couldn't find any scientists disagreeing on this (and this none agreeing with her), she'd have found a conspiracy instead.
Issues that are political hot potatoes ultimately have little to do with science. The human ability to kid ourselves is boundless - we are what Dawkins called 'virtuoso believers'.
KevinD · 20 July 2006
My impression is that Christianity has little to do with conservative rejection of anthropogenic global warming. This is mostly based on reading statements made by global warming deniers on the web so I may be way off base.
I think the tendency to deny global warming is based on both a perception of economic self interest and an attachment to libertarianism/free market capitalism that has a religious fervor to it. I've seen it suggested several times that global warming, indeed all environmental issues are an attempt to impose socialism and punish the wealthy.
While I don't expect the Wall Street Journal to publish very many editorials I would agree with I do find this one particularly depressing. It is either incredibly ill-informed or genuinely evil in its intent to misinform.
shiva · 20 July 2006
snaxalotl · 20 July 2006
the article is full of disturbing fruitcakery, but the underlying stupid punditry is pretty familiar. when you KNOW the scientists have the wrong answer, you don't need to understand what they do. you can safely sneer at their methods because you're on such a sure thing that somewhere along the line they've made a stupid scientist bonehead error.
Ginger Yellow · 20 July 2006
djmullen · 21 July 2006
In Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth", he states that a survey of the peer-reviewed professional scientific literature didn't turn up a single article stating that global warming wasn't true. But a similar survey of the popular literature showed that the pro-con articles were running about 50-50. So naturally, Peggy blames the scientists.
As you say, she's a conservative pundit.
JonBuck · 21 July 2006
KevinD got it in one. I read a lot of right-wing blogs and many are absolutely convinced that the modern environmentalist movement has become a bastion of the socialist left. They therefore regard any policies they advocate with suspicion and will actively oppose them any way they can.
Like it or not, though, the science becomes politicized when people start seeking solutions from their politicians in the form of regulations.
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank · 21 July 2006
Flint · 21 July 2006
Darth Robo · 21 July 2006
I guess this link seems appropriate here:
http://www.livescience.com/environment/060713_global_warming.html
Personally, I'm with Jim Hansen on this one (remember him?), but the article has views from people on both sides (hope I don't cause a fight).
Laser · 21 July 2006
Ginger Yellow, you probably already know this, but Jonah Goldberg claimed in a talk that America's Great Plains were a forest until the Native Americans burned it down.
Link here
Jonah Goldberg is an idiot.
Keith Douglas · 21 July 2006
Matt · 21 July 2006
One depressing possibility is that Noonan and her kind are aware of the fact of global warming (just as there must be those in the Bush administration who are aware that the war in Iraq is not going stunningly well). However, the short term goal of keeping their political rivals off balance are judged as being more important than the long-term consequneces of global climate change.
(Similarly, if the present administration can manage to funnel enough money to its cronies before the next election, the long term consequences are not seen as particularly important.)
Shaffer · 21 July 2006
I really doubt that religion has much to do with the fact that global warming denial fanaticism that stems almost exclusively from the political right. Yes, there are the random wingnut fanatics who literally think that the destruction of the Earth is perfectly acceptable because The Rapture is coming anyway, but they are few and far between and unlike with the antievolution argument, the religious justification simply isn't going to fly in mainstream America.
Most of it I lie to the reputation of the environmentalist movement amongst political conservatives. I don't think it's because of any vague association between environmentalism and socialism, but rather, simply, environmentalism and fanaticism. Much of the damage has been self-inflicted. The image of the "tree-hugger" chaining himself to a forest somewhere is still very strong. In the image of many people, "environmentalist" equals "tree-hugger", and because tree-huggers are insane, their claims can be ignored. I think it's a case of fanaticism breeding counter-fanaticism.
Dan · 21 July 2006
I'm afraid that this is more insidious than you would believe.
Peggy Noonan is a hired gun, and here she is showing the cut of her canvas.
The right is using pieces like this to sow doubts into the population - to the right, and the center - with reasonable-sounding arguments about the need for "more study" - hey, yeah, mor study WOULD be a good idea. And now this; "well, not all of the scientists agree on this Global Warming thing, and you know how some of these guys are with their wacko-enviro-liberal ways".
This is swift-boating, plain and simple.
Sad thing is, it works so darn well.
Enjoy!
Anonymous_Coward · 21 July 2006
You have to admit that the global warming deniers are quite intelligent (among the anti-science population, anyway) in not publishing anything, like the Wedge Document, that could incriminate them.
William E Emba · 21 July 2006
Laser · 21 July 2006
Joseph O'Sullivan · 21 July 2006
This is just another attack in the far right's war on science.
Noonan is playing the blame game. She is trying to cover up the right's efforts to spread doubt and confusion about climate science by falsely pinning it on the scientists. She is also trying to cover up the far right's efforts to stop any regulations that address global warming by again falsely pinning it on the scientists.
Its like arguing kids saying "I know you are but what am I".
Nidaros · 21 July 2006
Steve Reuland · 21 July 2006
DrJohn · 24 July 2006
Still only two comments. (If you can call the Randy one a real, informed comment.)
I guess the truth is a bad thing. Perhaps they did not like my abbreviation of Sac for Sacramento? Sheesh....
Jesus Freak · 24 July 2006
Sir, a Christian Scientist one time told me that they were not a cult and their beliefs were not a cultish issue. Was I ever surprised to find that they were. Why can we not say the same for Evolution? What beliefs make Evolution not a cult? Why believe in Evolution? What does Evolution have to offer me? Does believing in Evolution help me in getting to heaven? What would Charles Darwin do? What do eyewitness accounts say about Charles Darwin? Do we have any outside proof of his existence? Where can I find a local church in regards to the belief of Evolution? Why do people still worship Charles Darwin's teachings today? Thanks for your time and have a great day.
Honest questions about Charles Darwin:
Sir,
I have a question. Was Darwin a liar, a lunatic or a loser? Was he an idiot?
Question no. 2 Did Darwin go crazy at the Galapogos Islands? Was he hallucinating? What do the experts say?
Question no. 3 Are there any eyewitness accounts of Darwin? What do the eyewitness accounts of Darwin at the Galapogos say?
Thanks for your time sir. Have a good day.
Casey Powell
Tice with a J · 25 July 2006