The Lost World of Kent Hovind

Great stuff. I have *blush* spent too much of my free time on youtube watching this stuff. Some of it is really insane. Keep going and see what we are fighting for and *gulp* against.

When did mankind first begin? There is no reliable evidence of man existing before 3500 B.C. -- We can also extrapolate backwards from modern populations to estimate that only about 300 million people existed in the world at the time of Christ, and extrapolating backwards further yields only one family in the year 3300 B.C. -- History books speculate at length about "prehistory", which predates writing. But there is no reliable evidence to support this speculation, and not worth spending time on. There is no reason to think that man existed for thousands of years without ever expressing himself in written form -- So where did civilization begin? In a region known as Mesopotamia, which is Greek for "land between the rivers." -- Genesis 2:8-17 (NAS) describes the beginning in Mesopotamia as follows: "The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. -- Using the ages mentioned in the Bible and counting backwards, biblical scholars have dated this as about 6000 years ago, or about 4000 B.C.

are those "Free Kent Hovind" videos parodies? I'm sure they are, but it's really hard to tell the difference between someone pretending to be a confederate flag waving redneck who can't read or spell to an actual redneck who can't read or spell.

The funniest thing about conservapedia.com (aside from the name) is Commandment no. 1: "Everything you post must be true and verifiable."

OK. I want to know who produced this load of manure?

You need to take time to observe your faith, and what you believe a little more closely. I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing

Gary Guiterrez said " ... I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing."

Perhaps, Gary, you might consider how nothing-ness begat the creator.

I think you're a bully for picking on people for what they believe. I guess Hovind is a bully too for picking on evolutionists, but at least he has the balls to offer his evidence when he does it. You just use your bad feelings in a video montage of what he has made. You really need to take a deeper look at your faith/your religon/evolution and see that you have nothing but faith to stand on either. You weren't here, and you have nothing to test what was here, because for all we know it is nothing like what it was when it started. For all you really know we are products of A creator. You have the right to believe what you want, but quit being a pussy and picking on other people for what they believe. I'm not meaning to pick on your either, I want you to have the best life you can. I will have forgotten about you and this blog in a few weeks, because there is a great big world for me to admire, I might remember someday, but I will not give a shit then I'm sure. So be nice, lend a hand to someone, and have a better life.

My name is spelled Gutierrez, and If A creator could bring all this into existance I doubt that creator would need to worry about anything-ness, nothing-ness, or where to put the matter once it was created. Unless we are both just figments of each other imagination, we still need to explore time, space and matter a little more in depth. I know you can't have any of those without having the others. It's a law, kinda like gravity is a law. So did laws just invent themselves from nothing too? I wonder, but I feel I am closer to "the truth" than evolutionists. Is pi the never ending non repeating answer, I wonder.

So be nice, lend a hand to someone, and have a better life.

and you have nothing to test what was here

I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing

I think you're a bully for picking on people for what they believe.

wow! A troll? Well then that would explain my being a bully in blogs. I have never read a story with a nice troll. Just as I have not known an evolutionist that was not religously following the faith and belief of Evolutionalism, oh crap it ends in ism, hmmm what does that ism mean..look it up BIautch, you think your scholarly. In my eyes your just the same as creationist...in need of better evidence and mean as a snake when you're challanged on what you believe. Just so you can realize this, I am helping many people, and mine goes past giving a dollar to a beggar, or a ride to a hitcher. You don't know it, but I am actually helping you. I doubt you can see it though. You're blinded by your science, which is not real science, but that is a whole other problem I have with you people. Gotta go, peace and good will to you all.

Well then that would explain my being a bully in blogs.

good will

OK. I want to know who produced this load of manure?

Uh, Gary, we're "picking on" Hovind because he's a tax cheat and a fraud, not to mention a charlatan when it comes to scientific claims. The man was found guilty on 44 counts.

Gary,

No-one is complaining that Hovind is a bully. The complaint is that he is a liar who is taking advantage of other people's ignorance to line his own pocket.

You seem to believe that because nobody was around in the past then it is impossible to know anything about it. Have you ever wondered why scientists (regardless of religion) are so confident about their conclusions?

You calling an understanding of evolution 'evolutionism' does not make it a religious belief.

"You don't know it, but I am actually helping you." Arrogant nitwit.

Just as I have not known an evolutionist that was not religously following the faith and belief of Evolutionalism, oh crap it ends in ism, hmmm what does that ism mean..look it up BIautch, you think your scholarly.

— Gary spewed

In my eyes your just the same as creationist...in need of better evidence and mean as a snake when you're challanged on what you believe.

Just so you can realize this, I am helping many people, and mine goes past giving a dollar to a beggar, or a ride to a hitcher. You don't know it, but I am actually helping you. I doubt you can see it though. You're blinded by your science, which is not real science, but that is a whole other problem I have with you people.

Gotta go, peace and good will to you all.

I think you're a bully for picking on people for what they believe.

Ah yes, the "crybaby lamb of God" stance, typical of so many ignorant "Christians:" jump into a grownup debate, make idiotic statements, have your idiocy pointed out to you, then act hurt and outraged and call us bullies for not giving you special treatment because you call yourself a "Christian;" then make a big show of insisting you don't really care about us, and taking your ball and going home. No mention of the actual issue being debated here, just outrage and phony wounded self-pity.

How old are you, kid? By your tone and lame writing, I'm guessing junior high school age. Do your parents know you're making an ass of yourself here?

A year or two ago I downloaded a bunch of Hovind videos via bitTorrent. I was interested because they are shown on TV locally on occasion but I can't seem to watch very long before I get dizzy.
I figured that if I had them available I could watch them a little at a time when I was feeling strong enough. Well, that does not work. After at most 15 minutes I become nauseous and my eyes begin to move independently of one another as a result of the insane 'logic' of the non sequiturs spewed by 'Dr.' Hovind. The slides go by so fast that there is not time to think. Not that the slack-mouthed, blank stares of his audience show any evidence of thought anyway, of course.

I'm many things, and I plan to be many more, however just as infinate as pi is a number, A creator could be as well. Laws are laws, and science is science, but I still stand that evolution is a much a religious belief as Jesus Christ is. I find it interesting that man with his many inventions and well thought out plans, can neither draw a "perfect" circle, or bring something into existance from nothing. So call me what you will, and as for Hovind, he is what he is. I do not judge him, or what he has done, I just think that evolutionists are bigger hypocrites that most Christians are.

I just think that evolutionists are bigger hypocrites that most Christians are.

A fairly common form of theist attack:

"Your views are just as much crap as ours; both are faith based dogma."

A strange way of arguing, one might think.

But, this denies the entire validity of reason and science and is an attack on the capacity of the human mind. In one form or another, this is a constantly recurring attack by theists. Any time a view reduces to a claim of the equivalence of faith and reason, we are seeing this attack being perpetrated. Why would one engage in such a malicious attack? Religion is a weed that can only grow when reason is abandoned.

quote="gary" "I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing."

Science doesn't say anything about a WHO- only the HOW. you seem to have those mixed up in you sentence.

"I just think that evolutionists are bigger hypocrites that most Christians are."

What about the christian evolutionists?

I think you need to learn more about what you speak about before speaking.

There's no basis at all for the claim that evolutionists are hypocrites, with or without Christians.

I think the production values on the dino-park video are better than on the anti-evo videos..

I think you're a bully for picking on people for what they believe. I guess Hovind is a bully too for picking on evolutionists, but at least he has the balls to offer his evidence when he does it.

I'm many things, and I plan to be many more, however just as infinate as pi is a number

I've seen Hovind in action a number of times on TBN's "Praise the Lord" and he really is an absolute nutter (and that's speaking from a Christian point of view !). However, the sad thing is, Hovind isn't the only person to have a creation museum. There was a very funny bit on You Tube by John Stewart about Carl Baugh (although it seems to have been removed due to copy write reasons) and it also drew our attention to the Flintstones (I've often wondered if Hannah Barbera were YEC's !).

And then there's AiG's mega-museum which is due to open it's doors in a couple of month's time. Serious scientists may laugh at Hovind, but AiG believe in most of the claims that were put forward in the video. Their museum definitely doesn't any problem with building permits !

A fairly common form of theist attack:

"Your views are just as much crap as ours; both are faith based dogma."

A strange way of arguing, one might think.

Not for a grade-schooler. I've argued that way a few times myself, until I started growing facial hair, discovered girls, and realized they didn't dig crybaby-subjectivists.

Re "(I've often wondered if Hannah Barbera were YEC's !)."

Hmmm. If the content of the Flintstones implies its writers were YECs, what's that say about the writers of Road Runner and Wily E.? (Now there's a denial of several areas of physics and biology... )

Henry

Gary, sorry about having misspelled your name, it could happen to anyone: by the way, "existance" is spelled "existence".

You responded to my question about what begat the creator by implying (it seems to me) that A creator created the nothing-ness that the creator was spawned from. Neat trick.

We all know that everything must have an origin, even as must a creator.

As for answering where did physical "laws" come from, I think they came from scientists who use the word to describe their best understanding of how the universe works. Whose "law of gravity" is right? Einstein's, Newtons's or Fred's, my drinking mate from the pub?

Cheers

The Lost World of Kent Hovind