Who would that be? Ken Willard, someone you may remember.The National Association of State Boards of Education [NASBE] will elect officers in July, and for one office, president-elect, there is only one candidate: a member of the Kansas school board who supported its efforts against the teaching of evolution.
This is interesting: Ken Willard, NASBE
Just in from the New York Times:
21 Comments
Gary Hurd · 19 May 2007
Oh we in a heap of trouble now.
Is it too late to enter a dead dog? We would be better off.
science nut · 19 May 2007
Would it hurt to email our opinions on this matter to Brenda Weburn, (NASBE Executive Director)?
brendaw@nasbe.org
...it sure beats abusing a poor dead dog!
Frank J · 19 May 2007
Joshua Zelinsky · 19 May 2007
According to the NYT article there has been some discussion of making Sam Schloemer a write-in. Schloemer is one of the new Ohio board members who supports evolution.
Patricia Princehouse · 19 May 2007
You can contact Brenda Welburn and it might do some good, but she is not in a position to change anything. The people who can change this are the state boards who have to vote. You can find your state's contact info at:
You can call your board members & politely urge them to do the right thing.
Patricia Princehouse · 19 May 2007
You can contact Brenda Welburn and it might do some good, but she is not in a position to change anything. The people who can change this are the state boards who have to vote. You can find your state's contact info at:
You can call your board members & politely urge them to do the right thing.
Patricia Princehouse · 19 May 2007
For more info on Sam Schloemer, the write-in candidate, see:
http://samschloemer.com/
Jack Krebs · 19 May 2007
JohnS · 19 May 2007
Flint · 19 May 2007
Does this position give Willard more than a pulpit? What IS the NASBE? If only a creationist thinks the post is worth bothering to run for, this gives the impression that it's another PR effort having little to do with actual education anywhere, except indirectly.
Mike Elzinga · 20 May 2007
If there is no recourse to putting in an opposing candidate (if political or procedural reasons prevent such a thing), maybe pointing out more publicly the facts that Jack Krebs enumerated would be an effective way of keeping Willard in the spotlight.
If the other board members receive letters from the various state Citizens for Science groups, and copies of these letters were made public, this might be a way of heading off some of the same kinds of tactics he pulled in Kansas. (I guess we can't resort to catching him and tattooing a big red "ID" onto his forehead. That would be too much like what some of his followers would advocate for infidels.)
It's appalling that these idiots are never really held to account. As long as the current administration is in the White House, there seems to be enough political clout to keep these creeps going in spite of the messes they make. How much more abuse is this country willing to take?
Ed Darrell · 20 May 2007
Another problem with the write-in is that some boards may have already met to cast their ballots. For example, in 2005, Texas cast its ballots at the April meeting, since there was no meeting of the board scheduled between then and the NASBE elections in July.
The elections are in July this year. April's gone. I'll wager a few other state boards are in the same fix.
Publicity is the key.
Ya gotta wonder about having a guy as the only candidate for president of an organization, when the guy is wrapped up in so much controversy over an issue, with allegations of financial impropriety.
Ed Darrell · 20 May 2007
So, um, Grady -- do you think it wise to elect as leaders of educational organizations, those people who have urged teaching falsehoods to children?
The phrases you use harken back to unjustified paranoia. Can we distinguish between unjustified fears and justified fears? Is that not fair, and just, to do so?
raven · 20 May 2007
raven · 20 May 2007
How did NASBE end up with an anti-education wingnut as the sole candidate for president?
Very odd, and there is a story here. We don't know what it is yet.
Mike Elzinga · 20 May 2007
Nick (Matzke) · 20 May 2007
Which craft is whichcraft?
;-)
Mike Elzinga · 20 May 2007
MelM · 20 May 2007
Can the NASBE membership remove a sitting president? If write-ins are not allowed, then removing him or asking him to quit may be the only option.
Chiefley · 21 May 2007
Grady wrote...""Do you now believe, or have you ever believed, in any form of creationism."
Be reminded that the question is asked under oath, under penalty of perjury""
Colleen,
Since creationism is a religious point of view, and the person in question has advocated an unconstitutional teaching of it in public school science class, the scenario you suggest is not that far out of line. Similarly, the candidate should be asked if they have been convicted of any felonies.
To all,
I suggest that in electing this person as President of NASBE, they will be immediately destroying their credibility. We should start proposing that they disband.
hoary puccoon · 25 May 2007
Do I believe, or have I ever believed in any form of creationism? Sure. Years ago, before I really looked into it, I thought the creationists might have a point. When I studied the evidence, I realized they were not only wrong, but probably deliberately lying. In other words, I changed my hypothesis as I learned more facts. THAT'S HOW SCIENCE WORKS, GRADY. And the better the scientist, the more willing he or she will be to reform or even discard a cherished hypothesis in the light of new information. That's why science is different from religion.
Grady, your comment, aside from being paranoid, reflects an absolute ignorance of what this board is supposed to be about. Because no competent scientists would ever criticize anyone for changing an opinion to correspond to the facts.