The US is Trying to Take Over The World

Someone, somehow needs to get to the sheeple who are the targets and victims of AiG that their scumbag Ken Ham is being sued.

AiG won't come forward with this until they are completely outed to those mindless and vulnerable folks who fill their coffers.

I don't know how to do this. I just hope someone does.

Jim Lippard follows all of this very closely. He has obtained, and placed on his blog, an email sent by AiG (USA) to all its supporters, together with parenthetical comments added by CMI (Australia) when they got hold of a copy.

See Answers in Genesis responds to CMI.

The whole thing makes nauseating reading. In any dispute we expect each side to express their position as being the one with moral high ground; but when fundamentalists do this it is just that much more creepy, with comments on who is being "godly" and worries about sin and so on.

I especially like AiG speaking of "Answers in Genesis under Spiritual Attack".

Ooooh. "Spiritual". No Ken, AiG is simply facing a perfectly conventional legal lawsuit. Nothing spiritual about it. The only thing you might call a spiritual attack, by the light of your religion, would be back two or three years ago when you faced up to temptations to rip off your parent body and run rough shed over their input into your little empire. And guess what? You lost the "spiritual" warfare at that point when you opted for underhanded avariciousness.

Cheers -- Chris

Thanks Chris!

Wow. That's amazing. And I think AiG-USA is in serious legal trouble.

no services yet?

at last!!!!!!!

the Panda has risen from the dead.
Long live the Panda!!!(and its thumb)

(2) thus, economic competition between groups for limited resource of audiences and subscribers is very real;

What, there is unconscious selection amongst competing creationist organizations? How ironic.

Nic George,is that Nikolaos Georgioy?
(being australian I'm guessing thus)
nevermind if not

I had to laugh at a comment the Australians made: "We are filled with dismay at the many distortions of truth and misleading comments in this..." (http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4999, first blue paragraph).

But that's what creationists do; it's what they're good at; it's how they make their money.

Why are they surprised?

We must do everything we can to encourage this internecine warfare. Hopefully they will nicely balance out each other's resource use and mutually self-destruct.

Testing, testing. I think what happened is that PT's server exploded just as the Discovery Institute rolled out the new supplementary "it's not creationism, we swear!" biology textbook Explore Evolution. The irony spike was just too much for the poor old server.

What is particularly ironic about this dispute is that the creationists are seeking a resolution to their problems in a secular court where verifiable evidence counts. They apparent recognize intuitively that God can't help them.

And I am certainly not going to say "God help them".

Ken Ham was on CNN tonight (Glenn Beck's show, I think) spewing his "critical thinking" nonsense. The worst bit was the guest host agreeing with a hearty "Amen!"

Nic George,is that Nikolaos Georgioy?
(being australian I'm guessing thus)
nevermind if not

Nope, I'm afraid not.

Detailed review of the situation:
http://duoquartuncia.blogspot.com/2007/06/answers-in-genesis-lawsuit.html

It also showed what a myriad world Literal Creationism is, and how many new branches and groups have evolved over the decades. Something Pennock brings out rather nicely in his Tower of Babel- Literal Creationism isn't a monolithic entity, but rather is many different groups competing against each other in order to survive and gain new members. Honestly, if Ham had just asked us, we could have explained the principles of this to him and predicted that it would happen.

Nic George,is that Nikolaos Georgioy? (being australian I'm guessing thus) nevermind if not Nope, I'm afraid not.

What is particularly ironic about this dispute is that the creationists are seeking a resolution to their problems in a secular court where verifiable evidence counts. They apparent recognize intuitively that God can't help them. And I am certainly not going to say "God help them".

— Mike Elzinga

I'm an atheist. I don't want to take over the world. So you're a liar. Nyaa--nyaa!

speaking of grady/clarrisa/legion...

was it ever determined if they/it were behind the DOS attack?

I still have money riding on that.

I have never seen a website so intent upon bashing Creationism. You people are soooo supportive of evolution in the religious sense, right? Why don't you spend more time talking about the brilliance of evolution? The next big break in the theory? The next big discovery to make the cover of Time magazine? Why essentially waste your time and scientific magnificence on debunking Creationism?

Oh, also, I can tell you people hate AiG and think it's a big money-making scandal (what fun that is, right?), but did you also know that the museum in Cincinnati was built for a mere $27 million? Business men from the private, secular sector claimed they could never have done it in under $100 million. Perhaps the Creationists' God DOES supply all their needs. Creepy huh? You won't be able to prove that one with a beaker.

You people are soooo supportive of evolution in the religious sense, right?

One definition of religion is: "The commitment or devotion to a faith"
Well....you people cannot prove evolution in the sense that the earth was formed by it (or that we all came from a rock). It is a faith that you hold. Therefore....it's your religion. I personally don't believe in real-life transformers...more than meets the eye!

You don't need a pastor to have church my friend. Good luck with your religion...I'll stick with mine. After 5 seconds into Eternity, you may find that you will change you mind. At that point, it will be too late (or maybe you'll get lucky and turn back into a rock).

God be with you, my friend.

P.S. God allows U-turns.

Well....you people cannot prove evolution in the sense that the earth was formed by it

You don't need a pastor to have church my friend. Good luck with your religion...I'll stick with mine. After 5 seconds into Eternity, you may find that you will change you mind. At that point, it will be too late (or maybe you'll get lucky and turn back into a rock).

AIG International & Creation Ministries International have commenced legal action in the Queensland Supreme Court against AIG Kentucky and Ken Ham.

Claim lodged 31 May 2006. No defence lodged as yet.

Obviously that should be 31 May 2007.