Some Expelled News from Kansas

FREEDOM FRIDAY! Well zippity-doo-dah! Is that anything like Freedom Fries?

I'd really like to see this hog-swilling, but can't figure out how to do it on the cheap (free).

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It seems to me that Expelled has blown the last vestiges of the ID movement’s attempt to pretend that they are just about science, and no religion is involved. Of course we’ve known all along that the goal of the ID movement, as Philip Johnson has explained, has been to show that “‘In the Beginning was the Word’ is as true scientifically as it is Biblically,” but Expelled and its promotion now spills that premise out in public on the big screen.

I'm going to buy a ticket to a different movie and try to sneak into Expelled. Then I can sit and laugh while not having given the producers one cent.

They have all heard the Darwinists’ side in the debate over origins.

Why bother to sneak?

Just go up to any theater shift-manager who is more then likely a college student of some type and offer him a twenty to let you go see it without buying a ticket.

A kid that likely needs it will get 20 dollars and you can feel like you donated to a good cause.

What reasonable person could take these overblown pronouncements seriously?

Correction: respectability. Argh. The barstards are affecting my spelling now... just writing about Expelled makes you stoopid!

"Have you ever wondered if scientists have found evidence for God?"

No, I haven't. Because real scientists would publish their findings for all to see and everyone would know about it immediately. Who wouldn't want to be that famous?

What, there is a scientific conspiracy against God as well? That's funny, most scientists probably believe in God, so why would there be a conspiracy and how could it be 100% effective if less than 50% of scientists refused to participate?

No religion has any evidence for God whatsoever, scientists or not. It's a matter of personal faith and that's the way it should be. That's what the Bible says. People who have faith should not demand proof and they shouldn't be blaming scientists for not finding that proof, they should be thanking them.

And even if scientists did have evidence of God's existence, odds are it wouldn't be your God anyway, so be thankful.

Talk about hyperbolic rhetoric - this takes the cake

David Stanton: What, there is a scientific conspiracy against God as well? That's funny, most scientists probably believe in God, so why would there be a conspiracy and how could it be 100% effective if less than 50% of scientists refused to participate?

I can assure that the email is the real thing, and not a parody, but I agree with the point: I don't see how someone (in this case, probably John Calvert) can write this stuff with a straight face.

One of the sleaziest documentaries to arrive in a very long time, “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” is a conspiracy-theory rant masquerading as investigative inquiry.

NYT: “Expelled” is rated PG (Parental guidance suggested). It has smoking guns and drunken logic.

You know, IF evolution was all hogwash and Genesis was correct or even just mildly plausible, "cover-up of the century" would be a fair statement. But it's not.

I'm not too fond of my current job, but I must admit, it's a heck of a lot better than knowingly lying to promote absurd falsehoods.

Darwinian Thought Police

Happy "Freedom Friday" everybody!!

Would it not have been more efficient to list evidence for creation in the e-mail?

To all of you who would go see the film without paying:

I refuse to do that for two reasons: (1) I take seriously the Commandment "Thou Shalt Not Steal," and (2) I refuse to give the scam artists ammunition to accuse their critics of breaking one Commandment while they break another (Thou Shalt Not Bearing False Witness against Thy Neighbor." Plus if the accusations of plagiarism prove valid, they are also breaking the one about stealing.

Is the phrase "origins science" as used in that message a new turn on "creation science" or is it an old one? I haven't seen it previously. As ID dies a painful and public death, are we seeing a molting to a new set of feathers for the same tired bird.

Would it not have been more efficient to list evidence for creation in the e-mail?

You don't have to see it, any more than you have to see "2 Girls 1 Cup" to know that it's a vile and nasty film.

If you must, then wait, it will come to a church basement near you soon enough. If they provide cookies go and watch it there. As long as they're home made oatmeal raisin. And the coffee is good. And they promise you a blowjob from the Pastor's daughter. Both of them

Just wait a while to see the movie. I expect that they will be giving DVDs away before long.

When I took high school biology, evolution took up a few days at the most. We studied cells, plants, animals in a basic way, and simple genetics, the various systems of the body (circulation, digestion, reproduction, skeletal).

I didn't learn about the strong evidential support for evolution until after I started reading about it on my own. So, most students are really not going to learn much about evolution, and they can be easily hoodwinked.

The remedy is to make the understanding of evolutionary theory a basic goal of high school biology. It would probably be more valuable than memorizing all of the bones in the human body, LOL!

"Origins science" is a standard creationist/ID term for science concerning the history of anything: the universe, the earth and its geological features, and the origin of life and its diversity. Their basic claim is that such science is not solid science because no one was there to see these things happen and there is no way to confirm them with experiments, so therefore a theistic interpretation of special creation is just as valid as an interpretation in terms of natural causes. Note well that this is not a God vs. science issue, but rather a "God did it miraculously" interpretation vs. all other interpretations, religious or not.

There were no local previews for reviewers of Expelled, so no local movie critics could write a review. The review quoted above was also in my local Austin, TX newspaper with the byline "By Roger Moore - The Orlando Sentinel".

When I put "funnyman Ben Stein monkeys around" into Google, I get quite a few hits. If you go to this page:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/movies/

then you can click on "Expelled is a mockery of evolution". There are a few sentences at the end which did not appear in my local newspaper.

One of the reviews linked at expelledexposed says what most moviegoers knows is true: If it is not screened in advance for critics, it probably is not very good, and the producers know it. Another marketing technique is to give snippets of positive reviews in ads. One thing to always do is check the source of those quotes. If a high-profile reviewer likes it, you can be sure they're quoted. It's always interesting to see how far down the reviewer food-chain they have to go to find a good quote.

Todays Washington Post says that movie was not screened for critics, yet the ad for 'Expelled' has two positive quotes; One from the Washington Times, and the other from famous movie critic Rush Limbaugh.

Wow, that email is loony-tunes for sure. I've passed it along to show just how nuts these hardcore creationists really are...

... keep repeating the meme folks:

Ben Stein has jumped-the-couch! :)

For those who don't know, here's a reference on "jumping the couch"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_couch#Controversy

Actually,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_couch#Oprah_Winfrey_Show_incident

works a little better.

Is the phrase “origins science” as used in that message a new turn on “creation science” or is it an old one?

— David vun Kannon, FCD

Remember, for creationists, the Universe, the Earth, Life and Man were all created in one continuous event, which lasted one week minus one day.

That why they repeatedly tie biology to the Big Bang, and why they are sometimes willing to allow some degree of "adaptation" for bacteria and other animals, as long Man doesn't come from Ape.

That why they repeatedly tie biology to the Big Bang, and why they are sometimes willing to allow some degree of “adaptation” for bacteria and other animals, as long Man doesn’t come from Ape.