Coconino Sandstone, Walnut Canyon, near Flagstaff, Arizona. Mr. Woolf adds, "Look carefully and you can see crossbedding preserved from the sand dunes that were lithified to form the Coconino."
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diogeneslamp0 · 11 November 2013
Woolf's pop-level introduction to the geology of the Grand Canyon, and why it is totally incompatible with hand-waving YEC arguments like Steve Austin's, is highly recommended. In fact, mandatory reading, if you're a geologist yourself. Here: http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_intro.html.
diogeneslamp0 · 11 November 2013
diogeneslamp0 said:
Woolf's pop-level introduction to the geology of the Grand Canyon, and why it is totally incompatible with hand-waving YEC arguments like Steve Austin's, is highly recommended. In fact, mandatory reading, if you're a geologist yourself. Here: http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_intro.html.
Errata: I meant "if you're NOT a geologist yourself."
Matt Young · 11 November 2013
Reminds me: We ran 2 earlier photographs of the Grand Canyon by Mr. Woolf, here and here. He uses these along with the present photograph and many others in his debunking of creationist "geology."
https://me.yahoo.com/a/JxVN0eQFqtmgoY7wC1cZM44ET_iAanxHQmLgYgX_Zhn8#57cad · 11 November 2013
Why, it's complex. And it really is functional complexity at that, facilitating the flow of sand grains being blown by the wind.
Oh, it's not like life's complexity and function? True, but then, neither are our designs and creations. Just more of the hopeless ambiguity that "design advocates" wish to (mis)use in order to make plausible-sounding, but intellectually-meaningless, analogies.
Wait! Just look at that shape in the lower left! It's the fossilized remains of the Ark!
And unlike all those periodically found on Mt. Ararat and featured in supermarket tabloids, this one's right in the good old US of A, where them atheists can't claim it's a Photoshop job. 'Ararat' was just the old name for AriZONA. The name got confused at Babel.
Scott F · 11 November 2013
If I understand correctly, the cross bedding is the diagonal striping in the broad-ish layer, just below the one or two top-most flat layers, near the center of the picture?
apokryltaros · 11 November 2013
Just Bob said:
'Ararat' was just the old name for AriZONA. The name got confused at Babel.
You can't trust some dumb Nimrod to keep the names straight, after all.
Henry J · 11 November 2013
Just Bob said:
Wait! Just look at that shape in the lower left! It's the fossilized remains of the Ark!
And unlike all those periodically found on Mt. Ararat and featured in supermarket tabloids, this one's right in the good old US of A, where them atheists can't claim it's a Photoshop job. 'Ararat' was just the old name for AriZONA. The name got confused at Babel.
So is that why the Mormons are in Utah? Since it's close to Arizona? ;) :p
https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawnoPnMWQfeCANdXlQBv5Z2lEoL0IJ3d54k · 11 November 2013
Scott F said:
If I understand correctly, the cross bedding is the diagonal striping in the broad-ish layer, just below the one or two top-most flat layers, near the center of the picture?
If you look closely, there's cross-bedding in the uppermost layers as well, just not as steep in that location. The Coconino is cross-bedded pretty much all the way through.
SensuousCurmudgeon · 12 November 2013
I can't believe how dense you people are. Don't you ever think? Don't you ever observe? Can't you connect the dots? Apparently not, so I'll explain it to you.
First of all, that photo was taken near Flagstaff, Arizona. Does that ring any bells? Ah yes, for some of you, the light begins to dawn. Okay, I'll spell it out for the rest of you.
Flagstaff is where Meteor Crater is located. And that explains what is visible in the details of that sandstone formation. If you look carefully -- very carefully -- you can make out what I call The Face of Walnut Canyon.
Just Bob · 12 November 2013
SensuousCurmudgeon said:
I can't believe how dense you people are. Don't you ever think? Don't you ever observe? Can't you connect the dots? Apparently not, so I'll explain it to you.
First of all, that photo was taken near Flagstaff, Arizona. Does that ring any bells? Ah yes, for some of you, the light begins to dawn. Okay, I'll spell it out for the rest of you.
Flagstaff is where Meteor Crater is located. And that explains what is visible in the details of that sandstone formation. If you look carefully -- very carefully -- you can make out what I call The Face of Walnut Canyon.
And Arizona is right next door to New Mexico, and you know about the aliens there! And THAT is next to Texas, where Marfa is!
Jonathan Smith · 12 November 2013
First meteor crater is located near Winslow AZ not near Flagstaff; I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the marvelous Sinagua cliff dwelling Indian ruins that are located there. My wife had traced her ancestors to that area so we spent many happy days visiting. Nine years ago she died of cancer so I managed to sneak her ashes into in to the park and sprinkle them over the canyon edge, so a special place for me.
Matt Young · 12 November 2013
Wait! Just look at that shape in the lower left! It’s the fossilized remains of the Ark!
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diogeneslamp0 · 11 November 2013
Woolf's pop-level introduction to the geology of the Grand Canyon, and why it is totally incompatible with hand-waving YEC arguments like Steve Austin's, is highly recommended. In fact, mandatory reading, if you're a geologist yourself. Here: http://www.jwoolfden.com/gc_intro.html.
diogeneslamp0 · 11 November 2013
Matt Young · 11 November 2013
Reminds me: We ran 2 earlier photographs of the Grand Canyon by Mr. Woolf, here and here. He uses these along with the present photograph and many others in his debunking of creationist "geology."
https://me.yahoo.com/a/JxVN0eQFqtmgoY7wC1cZM44ET_iAanxHQmLgYgX_Zhn8#57cad · 11 November 2013
Why, it's complex. And it really is functional complexity at that, facilitating the flow of sand grains being blown by the wind.
Oh, it's not like life's complexity and function? True, but then, neither are our designs and creations. Just more of the hopeless ambiguity that "design advocates" wish to (mis)use in order to make plausible-sounding, but intellectually-meaningless, analogies.
Glen Davidson
Just Bob · 11 November 2013
Wait! Just look at that shape in the lower left! It's the fossilized remains of the Ark!
And unlike all those periodically found on Mt. Ararat and featured in supermarket tabloids, this one's right in the good old US of A, where them atheists can't claim it's a Photoshop job. 'Ararat' was just the old name for AriZONA. The name got confused at Babel.
Scott F · 11 November 2013
If I understand correctly, the cross bedding is the diagonal striping in the broad-ish layer, just below the one or two top-most flat layers, near the center of the picture?
apokryltaros · 11 November 2013
Henry J · 11 November 2013
https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawnoPnMWQfeCANdXlQBv5Z2lEoL0IJ3d54k · 11 November 2013
SensuousCurmudgeon · 12 November 2013
I can't believe how dense you people are. Don't you ever think? Don't you ever observe? Can't you connect the dots? Apparently not, so I'll explain it to you.
First of all, that photo was taken near Flagstaff, Arizona. Does that ring any bells? Ah yes, for some of you, the light begins to dawn. Okay, I'll spell it out for the rest of you.
Flagstaff is where Meteor Crater is located. And that explains what is visible in the details of that sandstone formation. If you look carefully -- very carefully -- you can make out what I call The Face of Walnut Canyon.
Just Bob · 12 November 2013
Jonathan Smith · 12 November 2013
First meteor crater is located near Winslow AZ not near Flagstaff; I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the marvelous Sinagua cliff dwelling Indian ruins that are located there. My wife had traced her ancestors to that area so we spent many happy days visiting. Nine years ago she died of cancer so I managed to sneak her ashes into in to the park and sprinkle them over the canyon edge, so a special place for me.
Matt Young · 12 November 2013